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Hello from Bulgaria, guys!

I'm expecting to receive mine CX-60 Homura, 3.3 diesel, 254hp in March (ordered in August 2022) and I will appreciate if some of you, who is already enjoying his CX-60 diesel can share experience, problems, consumption (I seen in Japanese forums are talking about less than 5.0 l/100km for 254hp engine, 4x4 which sounds crazy!!!), pros & cons and other thoughts.

Thanks in advance!
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Do you need something more than CarPlay? Mobile phone screen (CarPlay) is always better then built in apps.
30 seconds. After that, you either have to press the button or touch the gas. Same with the Germans. Or at least BMW, VW and Mercedes, no idea about Audi.

Missing features for me:
Car-X, but thats because Japan has their own system for that.
Adaptive Dampers.
Colored Ambient Lights
And especially for the German market, the ability to not have to press RES for it to read the speed limit and put it in the adaptive cruise. Apparently, that function works automatically in other markets.

Overall, for 60k Euros, a 6-Cylinder with what it has in terms of features is an absolute bargain.

Is there still room for improvement? Absolutely. But let's be real: Would any of you have considered the CX-60 if it was 70k or 80k, even if it had all the features?
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Car-X, but thats because Japan has their own system for that. - own system is ok and has wireless CarPlay
Adaptive Dampers. - it's missing like massage in seats but sometimes it's not working like expected.
Colored Ambient Lights - Japan design, color leds are nice but imagine it with Takumi. (Italian disco)
And especially for the German market, the ability to not have to press RES for it to read the speed limit and put it in the adaptive cruise. Apparently, that function works automatically in other markets. - You may change it, as I remember Driver assistance -> Synch Speed Limit -> Auto.
Adaptive dampers and some sound insulation would literally make me love the car :)

Massage seats would make me swoon.

Coloured lights Im not too fussed about...which is odd considering I come from a generation, and did in fact, have undercar neons are one point :)
Adaptive dampers and some sound insulation would literally make me love the car :)

Massage seats would make me swoon.

Coloured lights Im not too fussed about...which is odd considering I come from a generation, and did in fact, have undercar neons are one point :)
Ahh undercar neons with a remote in the car to change colour and flash pattern - I'm all nostalgic now
Ahh undercar neons with a remote in the car to change colour and flash pattern - I'm all nostalgic now
The good old days...
Like room design. To me leds are nostalgic as well but at home only at child room celling now. ;) Like restaurants Sushi or Kebab?
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It would help already if the car‘s headlights could be turned on for a shore time by the key fob or the app, but even these simple functions Mazda isn’t able / willing to implement!
It would help already if the car‘s headlights could be turned on for a shore time by the key fob or the app, but even these simple functions Mazda isn’t able / willing to implement!
does anyone allow that? You can set duration to turn on the headlights when you unlock your car. But I believe allowing to simply turn on will massively drain the battery.
Adaptive dampers and some sound insulation would literally make me love the car :)

Massage seats would make me swoon.

Coloured lights Im not too fussed about...which is odd considering I come from a generation, and did in fact, have undercar neons are one point :)
And very basic proximity car alarms that 'shouted' 'get away from the car' :D
own system is ok and has wireless CarPlay
German market does have wireless CarPlay, Car-to-X is something very different. It's a European System designed for Cars to communicate with each other. VW, Mercedes, BMW and various others have it as standard. It gives other traffic warnings, for example on icy roads (ESP turns on for a prolonged time at slow speeds), heavy rain (wipers are turned on very fast and/or lights and relatively low speeds - or actual sensors for how wet the roads are, the S-Class has those) - and it provides live traffic information from the car it self, that get's pooled and you get a much faster respons to traffic jams (a bit like Google Traffic, but a lot faster - TomTom is using Car-to-X Information as well). I think the japanese system does this as well. I think it's called VICS or UTMS (or something) and Mazda does offer a specific add-on for this in Japan.

it's missing like massage in seats but sometimes it's not working like expected.
Sorry - no idea what you mean by that.

Japan design, color leds are nice but imagine it with Takumi. (Italian disco)
I don't have to imagine anything, my E-Class has color LEDs and white interior. It's absolutely gorgues and sets a completely different mood in the car, especially at night. And it does help eye strain a lot as well, if you turn on "red-ish" colors. Especially with the white LEDs in the Mazda.

You may change it, as I remember Driver assistance -> Synch Speed Limit -> Auto.
As i said - not on the German Market. That "Sync Speed Limit" setting has only two options in Germany: "Manual" and "Off".


Adaptive dampers and some sound insulation would literally make me love the car :)

Massage seats would make me swoon.

Coloured lights Im not too fussed about...which is odd considering I come from a generation, and did in fact, have undercar neons are one point :)
As i said above, colored lights help at night a lot with eye strain.
Adaptive dampers would be great, sound insulation is something my Mazda dealer added "free of charge" without me even asking.

Massage seats are probably the one thing, i'm not going to miss, coming from my E-Class. However - i would have liked a different seat option, especially with all the different adjustments i have in the Mercedes. Different stages of lumbar support, the ability to adjust the sidewalls and most importantly: Thigh pads.
Also, there are "little things", i'm actually going to miss...the Mercedes "tugs" the belt gently, when it's fastened, it gives a "Welcome home, I've got you and will protect you as good as i can" warm and fuzzy feeling. Theres two trip computers in the Mercedes, one "after Start" and one "after Reset", giving you a proper overview about how you've driven (Mazda had that as well, now theres "1 1/2"), Rain and Light sensors are coupled - meaning if it starts to rain really hard, it will turn on the lights at earlier or brighter light stages. The Mercedes also warns you about pedestrians before they arrive on a crosswalk (works astonishingly well) and the ability to customize the information shown in the HUD more (like instant fuel consumption)

But those are all things i can overlook beacuse we are talking about roughly 35-40k less money (on the German market). However, the thing is, lot's of those things aren't even available for the BMW. The Base X3 with a 6-Cylinder starts at 66k Euros in Germany. If i put all the things in, the Mazda has if i order a Takumi with all packages, the Mazda is around 61k Euros.
Adding nappa leather and 20" wheels, we are at 70k already. Keyless Go, Active High-Beams and Laser Light (the standard LED lights on the BMW are not active and do not light up the bends), HUD and different Driving Profiles - we're at 75k. Acoustic Glass isn't available for the Mazda, so not going to pick that. What Mazda calls "Kinetic Posture Control", BMW calls "Performance Control" - costs another 1500 Euros, because you have to get the M-Package. Same goes for Variable Steering, Lumbar Support and Heated Steering wheel. Driving Assistant on the BMW gives us ACC with Stop&Go with the same limits as in the Mazda (meaing, after 30 Seconds of stationary, you have to "react" for the car to start moving again, after the car in front has driven off) and all the other safety systems the Mazda has as well (Side-Protection, Steering Assistant both active and passive, lane assist and so on).
Then there's the fact, that you can't order seat cooling on the BMW without loosing Memory Seats - unless you pay the "extra leather" package. Which takes us to 85k Euros.
Then there's also the fact, that Mazda has 6 Years of Warranty and 150k km. That's only available for the BMW for 5 Years and 100k km. With the H&K Soundsystem the grand total for the BMW is 91k Euros. If you add Adaptive Dampers and the Acoustic Package, you're looking at roughly 93k Euros.
Yes - the Mazda does not have some Features. But Massage Seats are also not available in the X3 and all the fancy stuff the BMW 7-Series and upcoming 5-Series has with automatic lane changing and what not is also not available for the X3.
(btw, a lot of the stuff the CX-60 has, is not available for the RAV-4 and whatever SUVs in the 35-40k Euro range)

Personally, i think the CX-60 is a bargain and if Mazda does go the extra mile on the facelift and adds coloured ambient lights and other "amenities" (like an acoustic glass package, actual connected services on the navigation and so on), i'll be willing to pay the lease and 1% for the lease. But i'm not going to do that on an X3, because the quality isn't THAT much better, if at all. IMHO, the X3 and the CX-60 are on par, but i've not driven an X3 long term. However, the CX-60 is on par with the Volvo XC-60 and acutally exceeds it in a few places...and the Volvo is as expensive as the X3. I don't think there's a better "full optioned" 60k Euro Car on the market right now. So yeah...

does anyone allow that? You can set duration to turn on the headlights when you unlock your car. But I believe allowing to simply turn on will massively drain the battery.
You can blink and/or flash the lights on most cars. I'm also under the impression you can do that on the Mazda, at least my dealer showed me his app and there was an option for exactly that in the Mazda App. So that may also be market dependend.
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As i said - not on the German Market. That "Sync Speed Limit" setting has only two options in Germany: "Manual" and "Off".
Wow. It's different in UE countries, unbelievable.


it's missing like massage in seats but sometimes it's not working like expected.
Sorry - no idea what you mean by that.

Pneumatic is not always better than good mechanical. May be but isn't in every car.
German market does have wireless CarPlay, Car-to-X is something very different. It's a European System designed for Cars to communicate with each other. VW, Mercedes, BMW and various others have it as standard. It gives other traffic warnings, for example on icy roads (ESP turns on for a prolonged time at slow speeds), heavy rain (wipers are turned on very fast and/or lights and relatively low speeds - or actual sensors for how wet the roads are, the S-Class has those) - and it provides live traffic information from the car it self, that get's pooled and you get a much faster respons to traffic jams (a bit like Google Traffic, but a lot faster - TomTom is using Car-to-X Information as well). I think the japanese system does this as well. I think it's called VICS or UTMS (or something) and Mazda does offer a specific add-on for this in Japan.



Sorry - no idea what you mean by that.



I don't have to imagine anything, my E-Class has color LEDs and white interior. It's absolutely gorgues and sets a completely different mood in the car, especially at night. And it does help eye strain a lot as well, if you turn on "red-ish" colors. Especially with the white LEDs in the Mazda.



As i said - not on the German Market. That "Sync Speed Limit" setting has only two options in Germany: "Manual" and "Off".




As i said above, colored lights help at night a lot with eye strain.
Adaptive dampers would be great, sound insulation is something my Mazda dealer added "free of charge" without me even asking.

Massage seats are probably the one thing, i'm not going to miss, coming from my E-Class. However - i would have liked a different seat option, especially with all the different adjustments i have in the Mercedes. Different stages of lumbar support, the ability to adjust the sidewalls and most importantly: Thigh pads.
Also, there are "little things", i'm actually going to miss...the Mercedes "tugs" the belt gently, when it's fastened, it gives a "Welcome home, I've got you and will protect you as good as i can" warm and fuzzy feeling. Theres two trip computers in the Mercedes, one "after Start" and one "after Reset", giving you a proper overview about how you've driven (Mazda had that as well, now theres "1 1/2"), Rain and Light sensors are coupled - meaning if it starts to rain really hard, it will turn on the lights at earlier or brighter light stages. The Mercedes also warns you about pedestrians before they arrive on a crosswalk (works astonishingly well) and the ability to customize the information shown in the HUD more (like instant fuel consumption)

But those are all things i can overlook beacuse we are talking about roughly 35-40k less money (on the German market). However, the thing is, lot's of those things aren't even available for the BMW. The Base X3 with a 6-Cylinder starts at 66k Euros in Germany. If i put all the things in, the Mazda has if i order a Takumi with all packages, the Mazda is around 61k Euros.
Adding nappa leather and 20" wheels, we are at 70k already. Keyless Go, Active High-Beams and Laser Light (the standard LED lights on the BMW are not active and do not light up the bends), HUD and different Driving Profiles - we're at 75k. Acoustic Glass isn't available for the Mazda, so not going to pick that. What Mazda calls "Kinetic Posture Control", BMW calls "Performance Control" - costs another 1500 Euros, because you have to get the M-Package. Same goes for Variable Steering, Lumbar Support and Heated Steering wheel. Driving Assistant on the BMW gives us ACC with Stop&Go with the same limits as in the Mazda (meaing, after 30 Seconds of stationary, you have to "react" for the car to start moving again, after the car in front has driven off) and all the other safety systems the Mazda has as well (Side-Protection, Steering Assistant both active and passive, lane assist and so on).
Then there's the fact, that you can't order seat cooling on the BMW without loosing Memory Seats - unless you pay the "extra leather" package. Which takes us to 85k Euros.
Then there's also the fact, that Mazda has 6 Years of Warranty and 150k km. That's only available for the BMW for 5 Years and 100k km. With the H&K Soundsystem the grand total for the BMW is 91k Euros. If you add Adaptive Dampers and the Acoustic Package, you're looking at roughly 93k Euros.
Yes - the Mazda does not have some Features. But Massage Seats are also not available in the X3 and all the fancy stuff the BMW 7-Series and upcoming 5-Series has with automatic lane changing and what not is also not available for the X3.
(btw, a lot of the stuff the CX-60 has, is not available for the RAV-4 and whatever SUVs in the 35-40k Euro range)

Personally, i think the CX-60 is a bargain and if Mazda does go the extra mile on the facelift and adds coloured ambient lights and other "amenities" (like an acoustic glass package, actual connected services on the navigation and so on), i'll be willing to pay the lease and 1% for the lease. But i'm not going to do that on an X3, because the quality isn't THAT much better, if at all. IMHO, the X3 and the CX-60 are on par, but i've not driven an X3 long term. However, the CX-60 is on par with the Volvo XC-60 and acutally exceeds it in a few places...and the Volvo is as expensive as the X3. I don't think there's a better "full optioned" 60k Euro Car on the market right now. So yeah...



You can blink and/or flash the lights on most cars. I'm also under the impression you can do that on the Mazda, at least my dealer showed me his app and there was an option for exactly that in the Mazda App. So that may also be market dependend.
Agree with most of your words. Except: The quality of BMW assistance systems. I‘ve driven BMW now for more than 30 years and additionally we own a Mercedes („just“ A-Class, but with all driver packages). Its technical perfection is just as I said further above. Mazda has some assistance systems, but they are several years from „state of technology“.

Anyway… This discussion isn‘t worth being continued. Every potential buyer of a CX-60 should take into account what I said already: You get what you pay for. Do not assume that this car can compete in any (!) technical way with premium brands! ( Not just BMW, AUDI, Merc; also Infinity, Lexus and others.)
Agree with most of your words. Except: The quality of BMW assistance systems. I‘ve driven BMW now for more than 30 years and additionally we own a Mercedes („just“ A-Class, but with all driver packages). Its technical perfection is just as I said further above. Mazda has some assistance systems, but they are several years from „state of technology“.
I dont understand. Drive systems like Line Assist, Sign reading etc. are working well in Mazda. Where is a difference?

We may say as well that Mercedes, BMW and other German cars are years behind Tesla with Navigate on autopilot. Please compare in live or on youtube. Nothing is better then Tesla in terms of autopilot/autodrive/assistance of driver. I would like to buy Tesla with diesel inline 6 from Mazda . I make 42k km per year so electric car is not for me but no one has autopilot like Tesla. Sorry.
I dont understand. Drive systems like Line Assist, Sign reading etc. are working well in Mazda. Where is a difference?

We may say as well that Mercedes, BMW and other German cars are years behind Tesla with Navigate on autopilot. Please compare in live or on youtube. Nothing is better then Tesla in terms of autopilot/autodrive/assistance of driver. I would like to buy Tesla with diesel inline 6 from Mazda . I make 42k km per year so electric car is not for me but no one has autopilot like Tesla. Sorry.
I was in a Tesla yesterday as an Uber, first time ever going to collect my CX60, by heck they are low rent quality inside, and the ride comfort was brutal!
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I was in a Tesla yesterday as an Uber, first time ever going to collect my CX60, by heck they are low rent quality inside, and the ride comfort was brutal!
I agree 100%, but in terms of autopilot and drive assistance is on top. So, I don't see a difference Mazda to German (drive assistance systems) cars but to Tesla I see on both.
I agree 100%, but in terms of autopilot and drive assistance is on top. So, I don't see a difference Mazda to German (drive assistance systems) cars but to Tesla I see on both.
I wonder if Tesla will begin licensing the software and radar systems to other manufacturers once the electric car greenwashing stops and we start using hydrogen?
It's amazing that for time being only Tesla has so sophisticated autopilot systems. I.e Matrix lights have any premium brand, HUD as well etc. Lucid Air is Tesla with luxury interior.
Look, so many car brands in the world... any only few collapsed. Everyone has a market as well Mazda.
I was in a Tesla yesterday as an Uber, first time ever going to collect my CX60, by heck they are low rent quality inside, and the ride comfort was brutal!
I'm going to grass you up to Elon for disrespecting his car 😁
I'm going to grass you up to Elon for disrespecting his car 😁
Me too, please. I writing to Tesla for 2 months for return 1000E for reservation 2018 for Tesla Model 3.
No one answer!!! On Tesla forum they says that is standard.
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