If I were you, put a new one nearby your CX60 and let a mechanic finger point all the differences. I think that the new one wont be thát new as they say.

 

It's even hard to call it a facelift. And definitely Mazda are trying to sell a lot of bollocks, that the 2025 car is a remedy for all the problems - it isn't.

 

I think the suspension has the principal changes: spring rates, dampers, eliminated torsion bar (was it so?). Don't know how it compares with the "original with or without all adjustments" though, haven't test-driven. Got an offer recently though, and indeed there's a loyalty discount among others.

 

All that mods are just polishing the turd + cost cutting. They will never admit that suspension is a failure - Japanese mentality. And if there is no problem, then it's not need to be fixed, right?

The whole suspension should be reenginered from scratch and in highest models be something more than just a simple shock and spring. But again, they won't use someone's solution, they have to do it themselves and be "proud of it".

If your current car is ok, you have no ongoing issues with it, don't change it. You might end up worse.

 

I don't know what the values are like in your country, is that even a good deal?

I had a call from the dealer who I purchased the first nightmare PHEV from a few weeks ago offering me the 'deal of a lifetime' off a new one...he proceeded to tell me he would offer me a discount of £5k off a new one like it was some form of holy grail offer...and then proceeded to offer me bottom book px on my Inline6. Suffice to say, the phone was put down. This offer would have worked out to around £20k + my car (10k miles) for a change to a new Homura Plus.

From our FB group, we are seeing less complaints from the few people that have 2025 models than those before, however the same issues we know of are still cropping up from time to time and its early days, new car has only been out a month or so.

 

So... you loose 27.000 euro's in 1,5 to 2 years? Is this offer a joke or a painful confrontation?

 

Dag Pieter,

In October 2025 my Mazda CX 60 will be 3 years old; at the moment it therefore has 2.6 years. The dealer offers 34.000 Euros for my car, while I have paid 57.000 Euros for it in 2022. Depreciation is in my case therefore 57.000-34.000 is 23.000 euro which equals 40% of the total initial value and a rate of approximately 15% per year. Neither a joke nor a painful confrontation, but a very reasonable depreciation rate that is in line with the pace in which similar cars lose value (see the example below) and with tax rules virtually everywhere.

"A 2022 Mercedes-Benz GLC has depreciated $18,580 or 41% in the last 3 years and has a current resale value of $26,320 and trade-in value of $22,830"
Source: Kelley Blue Book

Why the heck is it so difficult for Mazda CX60 owners to engage in an evidence based discussion?

Anyway, the offer of the dealer is not at all unreasonable, but for me the question remains whether it is wise to spend 25.000-27.00 euros on a new car that is not very different from the old one with an infinite number of updates and adjustments (plus KONIs).

PS I obviously can not judge what the situation in the UK is, but just having a quick look at Autoscout24.it in Italy Mazda CX60s are not dumped at all...

 

So... you loose 27.000 euro's in 1,5 to 2 years? Is this offer a joke or a painful confrontation?

So... you loose 27.000 euro's in 1,5 to 2 years? Is this offer a joke or a painful confrontation?

In the UK, my 10k miles car (so few miles as spent most of its life in the dealers awaiting repair) has lost roughly 48% of its value, and while other cars are going up in value in the UK (the short supply during Covid has now affected used car sales so used car prices as through the roof), the CX-60 continues to spiral.

 

Hello. My CX60 Takumi phev was £55,000 when purchased new in the UK 11 months ago (before a £5k discount) It’s value is now £28,500 - nearly a 50% drop. This is a BIG devaluation for a car not even 1 year old. The “car market” can see what is happening and know there are ongoing issues, hence their low valuations. I cannot afford such a drop and pay the difference for a new car - so essentially “trapped” for now.

 

Similar story here, trapped for years and what will be forever now.

What is interesting is that in the UK, used car prices are through the roof at the moment, dealers are even struggling to get sock so paying over the odds at auction, and yet the CX-60 still continues to depreciation at a rate of knots.

BMW X340D is a good example in the UK as I have been watching them for reasons

2023 , 9k miles, sold for £64k in 2023, is now around £57-59k, some even fetching £60k

My 2023 CX60, 9k miles sold for £52k in 2023, now £30k retail, px value is sub 27k.

 

My main question was: should I swap my car plus 27.000 euro for a brand new CX60 MK II? My final decision will depend essentially on the fact whether the MK II is a significantly better car to drive or not.

Thanks to all members of the forum that drive the MK II and are in the condition to make the comparison. Remains helpful for my

The second issue that was raised above was that of depreciation. I continue to think 27.000 euro is a lot of money perse but that the dealer made me a reasonable offer. This depreciation rate can be found for many similar makes and SUV models. Yes, Saintboothy, there probably are dealers that try ripping Mazda CX60 owners off when buying their cars but evidence suggests that even in the UK things seem to be less bad than stated Check Current Mazda CX-60 Prices | MOTORS.

As far as the BMW X3 M40D is concerned, Southeastern might want to race to a dealer in Solisbury where a low mileage X3 M40D is offered at 47.000£. Presume the dealer gave the seller some 3.000£ less to make some profit. 64.000£ minus 44.000£ is 20.000£ or 30% less in 2 years, in line with car markets trends worldwide, which also makes the X3 not exactly a gold brick... But anecdotical evidence is not really evidence, is it?

 

Check Current Mazda CX-60 Prices | MOTORS

I find these sort of sites to be pretty pointless in information terms for owners, derived by eBay (who own Motors).

Part one, the Trade in values are what are important to the owner, not the 'supposed' retail value given at any one time.

Part two, retail values are skewed by the marketing team algorithms (mainly Autotraders which others piggy back off)

As a UK owner, my 2023 with just under 10k is now down to £25-26k trade in seems to be dropping £1k a month still, I fear where its 'bottom' line is.

This will only increase when warranty has expired. Talking to an independant dealer yesterday he said he wouldn't touch a CX60 with a short manufacturers warranty left for fear of what it would cost him to fix if someone bought it and it failed on them.

It's a fairly common complaint on the UK owner group pages, many swallowing huge losses to get rid.

We have seen a huge cost increase of used cars in the UK in the past few months as the Covid aftereffects are showing in that 3 year old market, so prices may seem somewhat higher at the moment, but this can change quite rapidly.