[Southeastern]

You’re right on the order front m0t.
Lexus would be Sept delivery on a new one, or approved used can be picked up easily enough.
However used are still 10k above the price of a brand new CX60 which is why we originally went with the Mazda.

I‘m really unsure what to do.

Ive spoken with the dealer this a morning to voice my concerns. He says that even though it’s coming literally straight out of his showroom, it’s only been there on show for 3 weeks.
He went on to say the roll bar torque settings have been done yesterday during prep, the software was also updated, and the suspension issues shouldn’t be a problem as it isn’t one of the ones that where affected.

I know all new cars have teething problems that are usually rectified under warranty, but when parting with 50k up front I’d need reassurances.

I honestly don't know wether I should risk it, or walk away and pay the charges / costs and buy a used Lexus.

problem is, we need something pretty quick, as my wife has had spinal surgery, and needs something urgently.

I think you definitely need to take your wife out in that car before committing, it is a FIRM ride - it dosent have premium SUV suspension - no air ride, no twin gate shock absorbers - just basic, firm struts, and if she has has spinal surgery it really might be too much for her, it certainly was for me on any journey over an hour, felt like I had done a round with Rocky Balboa.

My car was a September car and needed the suspension changing to the softer one. If the car needed the rollbar recall, then it certainly will have the first 'edition' suspension, so he is BS'ing you on that for one.

 

[m0t]

I think it's worth remembering that this forum is a very small subset of owners (there's less than 20 unique responses in the vote thread for example) and comments from owners elsewhere seem more positive about the car overall.

Mazda appear to be happy to fix the various issues, if that gives you any comfort. On EV range though this appears to be an issue with the technology and they will probably only be able to fiddle round the edges on that one.

I think if you had time the right move would be to hold off for three months or so to see where it ends up.

 

[Burle]

Just looked on the prices in Croatia, for the first time this year. There are substantial changes. The comfort package is now integrated in Homura spec, but the Homura did not went up with the price, it went down. So, before new year Homura spec with comfort and driver support packages was 68.000 €, and now the same car is 62.000 €. Very nice discount and this leans me even more toward Mazda.

 

[otter]

I wanted an Exclusive , as i wasn't interested in the 20 inch wheels for the type of driving and use i have planned. But was offered a Homura for same price. Echoing what was said before , the Lexus had a 10 month lead time when i enquired on the PHEV , even longer on the mild hybrid. I am still excited for next week when i get the keys.

 

[ShaunD]

Thanks,

She has already tried it for the 24hr test drive and was happy with the comfort. It’s one of only three vehicles that has adequate headroom for access and egress.
Volvo, Mercedes, Audi and Honda all required her to bend her neck to get in which was a no go.
it was between Mazda, Lexus and Kia, the latter two with silly waiting times or retail prices for used.

 

[UKPhil]

Thanks,

She has already tried it for the 24hr test drive and was happy with the comfort. It’s one of only three vehicles that has adequate headroom for access and egress.
Volvo, Mercedes, Audi and Honda all required her to bend her neck to get in which was a no go.
it was between Mazda, Lexus and Kia, the latter two with silly waiting times or retail prices for used.

I have had the available updates done on suspension, gearbox etc and I'm now happy with the ride and auto box. EV range is ok as its very cold right now. Expect a lot more in spring. My better half, not known for her tolerance loves being driven in it. Wife whine drowns out EV whine.

 

[ShaunD]

We have decided to give it a go and bite the bullet so to speak. I have just driven back from the the dealer then back again as I forgot some documents, then home again.
Driven 18 miles in EV mode only from just under three quarters of charge and had 5 miles left when I got home.

This was with the radio on, charging phone and CarPlay running along with heater on. I’m not sure if any of these affect the PHEV side of things, but its currently 0 degrees C here, so I guess reading other posts, sort of what I expected.

The drive was nice, but coming down the country lanes, it seemed to be a bit “wallowy” front to rear wise if that makes sense, sort of rocking forwards and backwards over the bigger peaks and troughs, if you know what I mean. Not harsh at all and definitely no body roll.
I don't know if I was imagining it / half expecting it, if it was just the country lanes or if its normal and just me.

to be fair, the dealer has been really good from start to finish and says any problems at all or if I need to know anything that I forgot during the hand over, just call straight in, no appointment needed.

The wife seems really happy, so only time will tell I suppose.

The only other issue I have is with the my Mazda app. It wouldnt let me agree to any of the terms on my galaxy S22 ultra phone for some reason, but was fine on my wife’s apple.
So no connection with my phone.

 

[Southeastern]

One thing is for sure, the CX60 in Homura/Takumi guise is better looking than that Lexus...

 

[Southeastern]

We have decided to give it a go and bite the bullet so to speak. I have just driven back from the the dealer then back again as I forgot some documents, then home again.
Driven 18 miles in EV mode only from just under three quarters of charge and had 5 miles left when I got home.

This was with the radio on, charging phone and CarPlay running along with heater on. I’m not sure if any of these affect the PHEV side of things, but its currently 0 degrees C here, so I guess reading other posts, sort of what I expected.

The drive was nice, but coming down the country lanes, it seemed to be a bit “wallowy” front to rear wise if that makes sense, sort of rocking forwards and backwards over the bigger peaks and troughs, if you know what I mean. Not harsh at all and definitely no body roll.
I don't know if I was imagining it / half expecting it, if it was just the country lanes or if its normal and just me.

to be fair, the dealer has been really good from start to finish and says any problems at all or if I need to know anything that I forgot during the hand over, just call straight in, no appointment needed.

The wife seems really happy, so only time will tell I suppose.

The only other issue I have is with the my Mazda app. It wouldnt let me agree to any of the terms on my galaxy S22 ultra phone for some reason, but was fine on my wife’s apple.
So no connection with my phone.

Check the tyre pressures..the softer suspension , as I have now found, is a much more cushion like ride, but I wouldn't call it wallowy, so could just be tyres.

 

[ShaunD]

One thing is for sure, the CX60 in Homura/Takumi guise is better looking than that Lexus...

I do have to agree with that. Ours is in the soul Red and does look stunning with the Homura black bits and wheels rather than chrome

 

[Southeastern]

I do have to agree with that. Ours is in the soul Red and does look stunning with the Homura black bits and wheels rather than chrome

Just remember to change the horrible chrome wheel bolts to black ones!

 

[ShaunD]

Check the tyre pressures..the softer suspension , as I have now found, is a much more cushion like ride, but I wouldn't call it wallowy, so could just be tyres.

Thanks southeastern. I’ll check pressures tomorrow in the light when I get home from work, until then it will stay on the driveway.
Perhaps wallowy was the wrong word to phrase, but I’m glad you understand what I mean ..lol..

any idea what the correct pressures should be off the top of your head?

 

[ShaunD]

Just remember to change the horrible chrome wheel bolts to black ones!

Ive not even noticed wha colour the nuts are to be honest, but thats a good shout. Possibly amazon or eBay I recon.

 

[Southeastern]

Ive not even noticed wha colour the nuts are to be honest, but thats a good shout. Possibly amazon or eBay I recon.

Annoyingly Mazda offer Black nuts, but only in Japan.

I bought some TRS ones, I've used TRS stuff in many cars and never had an issue

20 x M12 x 1.5, 21mm Hex Alloy Wheel Nuts Including Lockers (Zinni) | eBay

M14 x 1.25. 70.6 - Plus. 70.3 - Plus. 70.1 - Plus. 66.6 - Plus. 66.4 - Plus. 64.1 - Plus. 63.4 - Plus.

www.ebay.co.uk

Very heavy duty, wont have any safety issues with them thats for sure.

 

[ShaunD]

Annoyingly Mazda offer Black nuts, but only in Japan.

I bought some TRS ones, I've used TRS stuff in many cars and never had an issue

20 x M12 x 1.5, 21mm Hex Alloy Wheel Nuts Including Lockers (Zinni) | eBay

M14 x 1.25. 70.6 - Plus. 70.3 - Plus. 70.1 - Plus. 66.6 - Plus. 66.4 - Plus. 64.1 - Plus. 63.4 - Plus.

www.ebay.co.uk

Very heavy duty, wont have any safety issues with them thats for sure.

Cheers again southeastern. EBay it is !

 

[SRY]

ShaunD
Best of luck with the new car and hope you have many miles trouble free driving.

I am still on the fence. I still have time and don’t mind if I loose my deposit. I have untill the end of Feb before I have to give the dealer my car. So I am just going to watch how lads get on with updates and mods.
Interesting to hear about price decreases on this years price list but our price list here in Ireland is still the same.

 

[ShaunD]

ShaunD
Best of luck with the new car and hope you have many miles trouble free driving.

I am still on the fence. I still have time and don’t mind if I loose my deposit. I have untill the end of Feb before I have to give the dealer my car. So I am just going to watch how lads get on with updates and mods.
Interesting to hear about price decreases on this years price list but our price list here in Ireland is still the same.

My wife and I are going to spend Saturday morning setting everything up correctly and to our liking before heading out for the weekend in the Yorkshire Dales.
Hopefully this will give me a better idea of everything with a good mixture of roads and conditions.

I wasn’t aware either, that there’s a button for maximum regeneration while driving either. I thought it could only be done in sports mode, so thats a bonus.
I thought i had to put it in sports mode on the motorway to keep the battery in shape, but not so apparently. Simply push the button underneath the my drive switch and it regenerates faster… allegedly..

I’ll let you know how we get on.

 

[Southeastern]

My wife and I are going to spend Saturday morning setting everything up correctly and to our liking before heading out for the weekend in the Yorkshire Dales.
Hopefully this will give me a better idea of everything with a good mixture of roads and conditions.

I wasn’t aware either, that there’s a button for maximum regeneration while driving either. I thought it could only be done in sports mode, so thats a bonus.
I thought i had to put it in sports mode on the motorway to keep the battery in shape, but not so apparently. Simply push the button underneath the my drive switch and it regenerates faster… allegedly..

I’ll let you know how we get on.

You better have shares in BP if you use that button

the car does its own recharge function when battery hits 30% anyway, you'll notice the vibrations and noises like a 2stroke engine in the car.

Id be interested to see what mpg you get once the battery is empty, so after 25 miles or so, if you hold down the Info button on the wheel it will then log your mpg more accurately on the dash display

 

[ShaunD]

I’ll let you know. It currently has 32 miles on the clock but I haven’t looked at mpg yet apart from the range on EV when coming back from the dealers.

it should climb to 2 or 3 hundred by the end of the weekend .

 

[SRY]

I’ll let you know. It currently has 32 miles on the clock but I haven’t looked at mpg yet apart from the range on EV when coming back from the dealers.

it should climb to 2 or 3 hundred by the end of the weekend .

When I picked the demo up I request the battery be discharged. I filled the tank to the neck and I drove it in charge mode. I set the battery to 100%. It took 137kms to fully charge it and I filled it again and it took 14.4 lt. I then drove on EV and got 61km. Then drove on petrol of another 137km and it took 13.1 lt to the neck. Just over 1 lt of fuel to charge back to 100%.

it will be interesting to see what you get. Enjoy👍